Stepping into conversations about race can be uncomfortable.

“What if I say the wrong thing?” many of us worry. 

My guest on episode 48 of She Made It is Tonya Lovelace, a global intersectional leader with 35 years of experience as a community organizer and movement maker.

I expected this conversation to be about her personal journey and her consulting business, but instead, it became something much more needed: a frank, open conversation about racism in America and what we can do to dismantle systems of oppression.

And guess what—on this episode, I totally said the wrong thing! But in her loving way, Tonya corrected me.

This conversation taught me so much that I can’t wait to share with you. 

Here’s what you’ll hear on the episode:

• How to become more active in anti-racism work
• How to have conversations about race without fear of saying the wrong thing
• What “white privilege” really means 
• How to be a part of dismantling racism (even though you’re just one person)
• How Tonya stays grounded when you doing emotionally intense work

Find this episode on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.